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We have some interesting poll today.

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Will the progressive movement eventually implode and 'eat their young'?

I voted yes.

One of my main goals of OEN is to wake people up. That's why we also publish non-political articles-- so people who are not VERY interested in politics will come to the site, then discover "wake up" articles. We cannot expect the tens of millions of people who are just waking or who have just recently woken up to suddenly vote green, and I'm not sure that's even the best thing for them. Mark E. Smith and I don't agree on candidates, but we do agree on a lot of election issues. There's room here at OEN for progressive disagreement. We also need to provide room for progressive tolerance of newly awakened people moving to the left.

It ain't gonna be perfect. A lot of the pickups of Democratic seats in the house AND senate will be bluedog types. They will not meet the perfection tests of those progressives who demand pure ideology. Still, they will help the Dem leadership get a lot more done. IN 2010, progressives need to get a LOT more organized and go after the worst, most right-leaning, sell-out candidates, like was done with Joe Lieberman. That was a loss in the general election, but a lot was learned and it contributed to our wisdom base of what we can and must do.

Do we abusively call people who have woken up and decided to vote for Obama stupid, fools, part of mass murder because they have not woken up as radical left wingers for McKinney or Nader supporting Greens?

I don't think so.

How do we handle newcomers who have finally figured out the right wing politics is wrong?

I say we consider what indigenous tribes do-- rites of passage. You don't throw a newborn into the jungle. The whole community supports them and raises then until the time when they are ready, however many moons it takes.

There are a handful of members on OEN who are very passionatte about their beliefs. That's great. But they, in this indigenous scenario I described, would be stomping on babies and throwing them in the jungle well before thei time. I think they need to look at their unkind, intolerant behavior and start acting a bit more like responsible members of the community. I was thinking of saying "more civilized" but civilization killed the indigenous peoples.

How do we embrace our new "converts" without trashing them?

 

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First and foremost... by scott creighton on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:06:45 AM
First and Foremost....We Must Organize! by Paul Roden on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:34:51 AM
So sick of that, indeed by Gregg Gordon on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:44:44 AM
hi Gregg. by scott creighton on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:07:34 AM
Hi Scott by Gregg Gordon on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:11:55 PM
You see? by scott creighton on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:42:14 PM
weeks, not months by Aurora on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 2:05:11 PM
Easy to say by Maxwell on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:34:43 PM
you want "proof"? by scott creighton on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:57:35 PM
At some point... by scott creighton on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:49:33 PM
Anytime by Gregg Gordon on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 2:51:45 PM
The "something" is quite simple... by scott creighton on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:00:50 PM
Quite a plan by Gregg Gordon on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 7:58:43 PM
well thank you... by scott creighton on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 8:48:20 PM
It's a gradual process and it has begun by Aurora on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:11:40 PM
Cindy Sheehan should recite S. Creighton commentary by meremark on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 1:04:57 PM
Bless you Scott for speaking truth and wisdom by Joel S. Hirschhorn on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:54:44 PM
a better context by Aurora on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:21:29 AM
Im with scott by Brad on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 5:29:26 PM
Brad... by scott creighton on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:08:35 PM
So true BUT. . . by sometimes blinded on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:28:51 PM
Are we helping ourselves? by Mark Sashine on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:40:16 AM
I wonder by Aurora on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:50:26 AM
Where Are Progressives Heading? by Rafe Pilgrim on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 11:12:44 AM
A view from the outside... by Jeff Bence on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 11:44:20 AM
I don't advocate voting Green. by Mark E. Smith on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 11:57:03 AM
The big picture by Babette Hogan on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:02:48 PM
Progs by Marta Steele on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:27:46 PM
Yes, Marta, that is what to do. Publicize actual information by meremark on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 1:30:51 PM
missing definition by Tony Forest on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 1:30:57 PM
Tony Forest by Michael Cavlan on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 2:02:12 PM
yo sé by Tony Forest on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 2:04:37 PM
Tony, My Response on other thread by Michael Cavlan on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 2:49:24 PM
Be careful, distinguish between real and neo-progressives by Joel S. Hirschhorn on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 4:01:12 PM
Joel by Michael Cavlan on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 5:56:21 PM
Viewing the DNC as "progressive" is living in the past... by scott creighton on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:45:54 PM
People in this sub thread are making a very basic mistake... by Steven Leser on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:51:10 PM
Wow... by scott creighton on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 2:49:37 PM
Wow Bob by Michael Cavlan on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 7:13:06 PM
I love people who assume motives to other peoples actions by Steven Leser on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:53:28 PM
Who said this? by JC Garrett on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:11:48 PM
So after 6 pages of comments... by scott creighton on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:37:12 PM
Well, I know one thing that has Zero chance of 'fixing' by Steven Leser on Sunday, Aug 17, 2008 at 11:23:03 PM
Steven, how do you propose doing that? by Mark E. Smith on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:22:34 AM
Rob, by Maxwell on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:44:56 PM
Angry football owners by Rob Kall on Monday, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:24:36 PM
Great ideas that miss the big point by Michael McCoy on Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:05:00 AM